{"id":1182,"date":"2016-07-29T15:04:33","date_gmt":"2016-07-29T07:04:33","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/isoc.sg\/?p=1182"},"modified":"2016-08-12T06:16:21","modified_gmt":"2016-08-11T22:16:21","slug":"notes-from-our-net-neutrality-seminar-and-discussion-2016","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/isocsg.org\/index.php\/2016\/07\/29\/notes-from-our-net-neutrality-seminar-and-discussion-2016\/","title":{"rendered":"Notes from our Net Neutrality Seminar and Discussion 2016"},"content":{"rendered":"<div style=\"width: 1034px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/ZEgONLlKuNeF4Jl9QfPB6k9d4xCESmW5UKnVPFagrCY4xGCw7299OOCsyToRwLldhpRJG14V1iyY_9GzdG66qIGCbxF_UltsTqqzT_pPObM8yT_CD9kgcQWLIICJ3traUaPLU5XWiI7fwNdUhrLhyEbPjPYNyvkDn5TErg4EBlsB-p-AeA8RLnAzOvwhbZ6pWxgBaIkNLImkBFRUa6x9IMDfmZJdUg21lVLSBxxADGGudXMkJZoXJaIYvk6W-exf0xF-ruiCgnneOpz8JGA9Sr8nK787kyTl_JY03xE1-HqaudSZGS4Z1kij0yXsgssBmz3AY_2prtaDzeRF0ZZhEY8xc7h_mkAED9whtDGmfZBawk82GMDn8SVBLFRy51dMUgO6o2NRiBq4ni0eq1NHoJCuTSRnpLjCX8RBEmKiA3jhHafAwMn4XO1J35ylaqyn_p0ouhxull2hlWFu3-PM0obtwJgjnaxIN7XQ-a1ZyLUtPga9-EA-7uwVxtpnDoUy5auQSDfeDz3yY7qhRkKKaAtXNiUR5zHQNJ59k48J5c0oKrxCifl3z7n61JoLVNpwLvdbdRikKpF_lrmhdgceNrNzzGs6kgjf=w1024-h576-no\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/lh3.googleusercontent.com\/ZEgONLlKuNeF4Jl9QfPB6k9d4xCESmW5UKnVPFagrCY4xGCw7299OOCsyToRwLldhpRJG14V1iyY_9GzdG66qIGCbxF_UltsTqqzT_pPObM8yT_CD9kgcQWLIICJ3traUaPLU5XWiI7fwNdUhrLhyEbPjPYNyvkDn5TErg4EBlsB-p-AeA8RLnAzOvwhbZ6pWxgBaIkNLImkBFRUa6x9IMDfmZJdUg21lVLSBxxADGGudXMkJZoXJaIYvk6W-exf0xF-ruiCgnneOpz8JGA9Sr8nK787kyTl_JY03xE1-HqaudSZGS4Z1kij0yXsgssBmz3AY_2prtaDzeRF0ZZhEY8xc7h_mkAED9whtDGmfZBawk82GMDn8SVBLFRy51dMUgO6o2NRiBq4ni0eq1NHoJCuTSRnpLjCX8RBEmKiA3jhHafAwMn4XO1J35ylaqyn_p0ouhxull2hlWFu3-PM0obtwJgjnaxIN7XQ-a1ZyLUtPga9-EA-7uwVxtpnDoUy5auQSDfeDz3yY7qhRkKKaAtXNiUR5zHQNJ59k48J5c0oKrxCifl3z7n61JoLVNpwLvdbdRikKpF_lrmhdgceNrNzzGs6kgjf=w1024-h576-no\" alt=\"ISOC SG Net Neutrality Seminar and Discussion - 27 July 2016\" width=\"1024\" height=\"576\" \/><\/a><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">ISOC SG Net Neutrality Seminar and Discussion &#8211; 27 July 2016<\/p><\/div>\n<p>This research into Net Neutrality in Singapore was sparked by an online advertisement: SingTel music plan allows you to pick from Amped, Spotify or KKBox or radio without further data charges.\u00a0This is a <strong>zero-rated<\/strong> plan &#8211; plan that exempts data from counting against a user\u2019s data cap, or from accruing any excess charges.<br \/>\nIf you believe in <strong>Net neutrality &#8211;<\/strong> then\u00a0ISPs should treat all data equally.\u00a0ZR provides unfair advantages to\u00a0certain content providers,\u00a0certain ISPs,\u00a0creates walled garden<\/p>\n<p><strong>History<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>2010 IDA consultation on N\/N<br \/>\n2011 IDA issued N\/N Paper<br \/>\n&#8211; fast lanes are permitted, no banning of throttling<br \/>\n&#8211; access to legitimate websites should not become unusable<br \/>\n2014 MWC<br \/>\n&#8211;\u00a0Singtel called regulators to give ISP permission to charge Whatsapp<br \/>\nParliament: Gerald Giam raised the question<br \/>\nMCI replied: ISPs are concerned with competition<\/p>\n<p><strong>Case studies<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>India<\/strong> &#8211; Facebook introduced Free Basics app and internet.org to provide free access to FB and 36 other sides in the app, optimized for feature phones, if they subscribe to certain operators<br \/>\nThis raised concerns: users have limited view of internet chosen by FB<br \/>\nFB counter argument &#8211; target market was people in poverty who have no access anyway and did not know the benefits of the internet; it would be better to give them some form of access first, and full access was unsustainable for a private company<br \/>\nBut Free Basics is now banned in India because India\u2019s IT sector opposed<\/p>\n<p><strong>USA<\/strong> &#8211;\u00a0T-Mobile binge-on plan provided ZR video content from a limited no of content providers<br \/>\nResolution limited to 480p, unlimited streaming<br \/>\ncommon concerns: T-mobile might shape the environment<br \/>\nUnusual that it was praised for creating technical standards and in theory any content provider could stream on the Binge On Plan<\/p>\n<p><strong>Regional (S-E Asia)<\/strong><br \/>\nZR is a concern today &#8211; see the SingTel Amped ZR plan<br \/>\nFB is active in PH, TH, IN and Myanmar<br \/>\nMY provides access to FB, Whatsapp, Waze all under ZR plans<\/p>\n<p><strong>Net Neutrality in Singapore<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Based on interviews by the researchers, who is closest to the purist\u00a0(EFF) definition of Net Neutrality?<br \/>\n1. Civil Society (ISOC)<br \/>\n2. Industry players<br \/>\n3. IDA<\/p>\n<p>Discussion in SG tends towards the fact that we have very good broadband infrastructure<br \/>\nIDA notes that there are 5 prominent ISPs &#8211; consumers can choose between them<br \/>\nEven industry players say SG has abundant bandwidth, no need to prioritize<br \/>\nISOC view: many have accessibility to high-speed Internet so users can still get to the content; all were aware of negative concept of ZR but felt it was not an issue in SG<\/p>\n<p>ISOC view:\u00a0there should not be traffic prioritisation; there should not be ZR; but in Singapore it may not be an issue because of high bandwidth<br \/>\nIDA goals<br \/>\n&#8211; to ensure competition<br \/>\n&#8211; to ensure high speed, low latency<br \/>\nIDA considers ZR to be only a theoretical problem but not a real problem in SG, they are monitoring and will step in if there are complaints<\/p>\n<p>Industry players\u00a0argue that\u00a0ISPs should be transparent.<br \/>\nZR is a competition issue<br \/>\nZR has different meanings in developed and non-developed countries<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Conclusion<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>ZR has not been discussed much in Singapore<br \/>\nNo -ve feedback from consumers<br \/>\nNo noise from industry players<br \/>\nIs it really a problem for SG?<\/p>\n<p>Q. Should the NN debate be driven by the outcome or the principle?<\/p>\n<p>A. IDA says this is a theoretical problem, no one has complained yet!<\/p>\n<p>Q. Why are we nonchalant about NN in SG?<\/p>\n<p>A. IDA is aware, monitoring, they have broad powers, consumers not complaining<\/p>\n<p>Q. What if ISPs start to slowly degrade and consumers are not aware?<\/p>\n<p>A. We need\u00a0to study this as there is no data available now<\/p>\n<p>Q. Is it possible that there are startups who cannot get started because of throttling?\u00a0Given that ISPs are also moving into content plays, will that mean that independent content startups are at disadvantage?<\/p>\n<p>A. There are no complaints so far from start ups<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Q. Can we practically measure throttling?no answer<\/p>\n<p>A. No answer. If you can\u2019t quantify a problem then we will struggle to convince the regulator<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>From the floor: Telefonika (Spain) 2014 wanted to charge $1 for Google because they lost SMS business<br \/>\nSo now phone calls and text are free, but data packages cost more<\/p>\n<p>Q: Does that amount to net economic benefit? Then there is no competition law issue.<\/p>\n<p>A. We should have a project to measure ISP speed for different sites and apps<\/p>\n<p>We should encourage ISPs to be like T-mobile and make it available to all content providers<\/p>\n<p>Meeting concluded at 8:30 pm<\/p>\n<h2>Background of the Seminar \/ Discussion<\/h2>\n<p>[Posted previously]<\/p>\n<p>Net Neutrality is a controversial issue in other countries, with Internet users (like you and me), Internet Service Providers, and governments, often disagreeing on whether they should treat all data on the Internet neutrally, or if they should charge different rates for different uses and users.<\/p>\n<p>What does Net Neutrality mean in the Singapore context?<br \/>\nWould it benefit or hinder Internet use in Singapore?<br \/>\nShould some online services or users have priority or preferential (or heavier) pricing?<br \/>\nIs it time to review the official policies on Net Neutrality that were issued in 2011, before the exponential growth of streaming services like Netflix and Spotify?<\/p>\n<p>Learn more about these issues and join the discussion at our event<\/p>\n<p>NET NEUTRALITY \u2013 WILL IT WORK FOR SINGAPORE?<\/p>\n<p>27 July 2016, 7 pm, at APAC Meeting Room, Red Hat Asia Pacific, 8 Shenton Way #10-00, AXA Tower, Singapore 068811<\/p>\n<p><strong>Agenda:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>7.00 pm Registration and coffee<\/p>\n<p>7.15 pm Briefing by TNG YING HUI and TAN MIN-WEI (Institute of Policy Studies)<\/p>\n<p>7.45 pm Discussion and Q&amp;A with GREG MITTMAN, CTO of MyRepublic, moderated by BRYAN TAN (Pinsent Masons MPillay)<\/p>\n<p>9.00 pm End<\/p>\n<p><strong>Admission<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Admission is free for members of the Internet Society<\/p>\n<p>You can join the Internet Society when you register at the door<\/p>\n<p><strong>Register here<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Send us an email at info@isoc.sg to register for this event and to reserve your seat.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Speakers<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Moderator BRYAN TAN is a partner at the law firm Pinsent Masons MPillay. Qualified in both England &amp; Wales and Singapore, Bryan Tan practices in such areas as finance, information technology, telecommunications, biotechnology and bioinformatics, Chinese intellectual property, entertainment law, and corporate and commercial work. He advises corporates, banks, institutions as well as governments and has advised on acquisitions of software systems for hospitals, factories, banks, vessels and defence systems. Bryan has advised multinational technology companies and has also advised numerous start-ups in Southeast Asia and venture capitalists on funding, mergers &amp; acquisitions and exits. His team closed 15 VC-related deals last year. Bryan was also legal advisor to the ASEAN Single Window project, a key initiative for ASEAN 2015. Bryan has also written eight text books on e-commerce, electronic evidence, data protection and higher education.<br \/>\nGREG MITTMAN has over 15 years experience in telecom and technology. He has valuable cross functional experience holding senior positions in business development, regional marketing, strategy, alliances, managed services and complex sales. He is presently Vice President and CTO of MYREPUBLIC, a Singapore-grown startup, which is the world\u2019s first telecom company purpose-built for optical fibre NBNs (National Broadband Networks).\u00a0MyRepublic now provides fast internet service to over 50,000 homes and businesses in Singapore.<\/p>\n<p>TNG YING HUI is a Research Assistant in the Arts, Culture and Media cluster at the Institute of Policy Studies. Her research areas include Internet regulation and the impact of new media on politics. She has a master\u2019s degree in International Studies from the Josef Korbel School of International Studies at the University of Denver. Before graduate school, she worked at CNBC. Her by-lines have appeared in the Asian Correspondent and Al Jazeera.<\/p>\n<p>TAN MIN-WEI is a Research Assistant in the Politics and Governance Cluster at the Institute of Policy Studies, a think-tank dedicated to fostering good governance in Singapore through strategic policy research and discussion. He graduated with a Bachelor of Arts (Honours) in Politics from the University of Nottingham, and his research areas include Internet policy and regulation.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-full wp-image-1176\" src=\"https:\/\/isoc.sg\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/net-neutrality.jpg\" alt=\"net-neutrality\" width=\"800\" height=\"800\" srcset=\"https:\/\/isocsg.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/net-neutrality.jpg 800w, https:\/\/isocsg.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/net-neutrality-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/isocsg.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/net-neutrality-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/isocsg.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/07\/net-neutrality-768x768.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This research into Net Neutrality in Singapore was sparked by an online advertisement: SingTel music plan allows you to pick from Amped, Spotify or KKBox [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":1185,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_exactmetrics_skip_tracking":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_active":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_note":"","_exactmetrics_sitenote_category":0,"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[14,2,3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1182","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-14","category-events","category-general"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/isocsg.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1182","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/isocsg.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/isocsg.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/isocsg.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/isocsg.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1182"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/isocsg.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1182\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1195,"href":"https:\/\/isocsg.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1182\/revisions\/1195"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/isocsg.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1185"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/isocsg.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1182"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/isocsg.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1182"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/isocsg.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1182"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}